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		<title>FISA Vote Delayed</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was the best I could have hoped for: The Senate has delayed a vote on the FISA legislation until after the July break, saying that Senator (my hero) Russ Feingold wants more time to work on the telecom immunity provisions.
What it means to us is this: There is time to push back on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>This was the best I could have hoped for: The Senate has <a href="http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/housing-bill-fisa-delayed-until-after-july-recess-2008-06-26.html">delayed a vote on the FISA legislation</a> until after the July break, saying that Senator (my hero) Russ Feingold wants more time to work on the telecom immunity provisions.</p>
<p>What it means to us is this: There is time to push back on the Democrats who caved in on these provisions in the Senate and the House, and also time to communicate the reasons for opposing this to our friends, family and other people who don&#8217;t understand what it does and why it&#8217;s bad.</p>
<p>Good work, Senate. Now fix this thing.</p>
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		<title>Obama&#8217;s Response to Constituent&#8217;s FISA Protest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but it&#8217;s FISA night again. I&#8217;m really unhappy about the telecom immunity, and have been unhappier still about the somewhat vague response Barack Obama has given regarding his support for it.
However, one of his constituents wrote a letter to him urging him to vote no and received a more complete response.  
The House [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Sorry, but it&#8217;s FISA night again. I&#8217;m really unhappy about the telecom immunity, and have been unhappier still about the somewhat vague response Barack Obama has given regarding his support for it.</p>
<p>However, one of his constituents wrote a letter to him urging him to vote no and received a <a href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/christinedonnelly/gG5NYQ">more complete response</a>.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The House and Senate worked out a compromise, reconciling differences between the two versions of the bill before it can be signed into law. While I recognize that this compromise is imperfect, I will support this legislation, which provides an important tool to fight the war on terrorism and<span style="font-weight: bold;"> provides for an Inspectors General report so that we can finally get to the bottom of the warrantless wiretapping program and how it undermined our civil liberties</span>. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s still not enough for me, but I&#8217;m willing to accept that these affidavits that will have to be filed with the court by the Inspectors General will contain enough information to cast light on the illegal actions of the current Administration.  </p>
<p>Dianne Feinstein is on notice, though, along with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the caving Democrats in the House.  This is not one I will forget when you&#8217;re up for re-election.</p>
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		<title>WTF Items for the Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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Appeals Court Invalidates Detainee&#8217;s &#8216;Enemy&#8217; Status
A federal appeals court in Washington has invalidated the Bush administration&#8217;s finding that a detainee held for more than six years in the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba is an &#8220;enemy combatant,&#8221; and has ordered the government to release him, transfer him or offer him a new hearing.
Oh, and [...]]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062301619.html?nav=rss_politics">Appeals Court Invalidates Detainee&#8217;s &#8216;Enemy&#8217; Status</a></p>
<blockquote><p>A federal appeals court in Washington has invalidated the Bush administration&#8217;s finding that a detainee held for more than six years in the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba is an &#8220;enemy combatant,&#8221; and has ordered the government to release him, transfer him or offer him a new hearing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, and the White House <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/20/AR2008062002939.html?nav=rss_politics">pooh-poohed legal advice</a> saying he risked judicial scrutiny of detention policies.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062301796.html?nav=rss_politics">Report Says Partisanship Reigned in Justice Department Hiring Program</a><br />
<blockquote><p>High-ranking political appointees at the Justice Department labored to stock a prestigious hiring program with young conservatives in a five-year-long attempt to reshape the department&#8217;s ranks, according to an inspector general&#8217;s report to be released today.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, there&#8217;s a surprise.  After firing US Attorneys that didn&#8217;t toe the Bushies&#8217; line, who&#8217;s surprised by this?</li>
<li><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-silverstein/mccain-no-habeas-for-bin_b_108575.html">McCain: No Habeas for Bin Laden, Right to the Gallows</a> John McCain says:<br />
<blockquote><p>&#8230;After enthusiastically embracing the Supreme Court decision granting habeas in U.S. civilian courts to dangerous terrorist detainees, he is now running away from the consequences of that decision and what it would mean if Osama bin Laden were captured. Senator Obama refuses to clarify whether he believes habeas should be granted to Osama bin Laden, and instead cites the precedent of the Nuremburg [sic] war trials&#8230;There was no habeas at Nuremburg [sic] and there should be no habeas for Osama bin Laden.</p>
<p>..Let me be clear, under my administration Osama bin Laden will either be killed on the battlefield or executed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just to be clear here, does anyone seriously believe bin Laden would set foot on American soil. Pulease! Meanwhile, Al Qaeda <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062302135.html?nav=rss_email/components">grows more vocal online.</a></li>
<li>The new FISA bill now in the Senate gives &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_06/013956.php">wholesale approval for NSA</a>t o conduct bulk monitoring of electronic communications.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/06/8790_bush_administra_7.html">Bush Administration shoots down plan to overhaul army contract oversight</a>.  After all, why be accountable for nearly 5 billion charged in fraud or another 5 billion spent without documentation?</li>
<li>Wexler points out how the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-robert-wexler/mcclellan-testimony-highl_b_108735.html">McClellan testimony points to the Bush Administration crimes</a>, and calls for accountability</li>
</ul>
<p>This is really why the American electorate should not be so dumb about their constitutional rights. I have just listed six separate stories published in one day, all pointing to the utter disregard this administration has for basic civil rights guaranteed by our Constitution.  </p>
<p>While the mainstream media stokes the fear that Iran will attack, participating once again in the administration&#8217;s plan to keep us in line by keeping us afraid, no one is paying attention to the true goal of Bush and the neocons: To erode civil rights and the constitution so deeply that Americans will not understand what they have surrendered through ignorance, nor what they have lost.</p>
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		<title>War With Iran? No, We Can&#8217;t. Call your Representatives.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone really needs to tell Congress to get a grip. That someone needs to be us. This is absolutely NOT the time to be saber-rattling in a serious way with Iran, and CERTAINLY not the time to be authorizing any resolution for military action.

Over the last three weeks 77 House Democrats and 92 Republicans have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Someone really needs to tell Congress to get a grip. That someone needs to be us. This is absolutely NOT the time to be saber-rattling in a serious way with Iran, and CERTAINLY not the time to be authorizing <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/21/144412/857/181/539848">any resolution for military action</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Over the last three weeks 77 House Democrats and 92 Republicans have agreed to cosponsor a new resolution against Iran that <b>demands that President Bush &#8220;initiate an international effort&#8221; to impose a land, sea, and air blockade on Iran</b> to prevent it from importing gasoline and to inspect all cargo entering or leaving Iran.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some facts:</p>
<ol>
<li>Play the memory game.  This is how the Iraq disaster started.  By shaking our fists at a country that did not attack us, did not in any way play a role in 9/11 and wasn&#8217;t responsible for whatever problems we had.</li>
<li>Iranian people, for the most part,  do not agree with aggressive moves toward other countries.  Remember, armies need to have troops.  Successful armies need to have troops with a cause.</li>
<li>Believe it or not, Israel has the<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/960457.html"> means and motivation to defend themselves</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0529/p99s01-duts.html">Afghanistan is going to hell in a handbasket</a>.</li>
<li>The motives for such a resolution are about <a href="http://politics.drumsnwhistles.com/2008/06/exxonmobil-shell-chevron-et-al-claim-victors-spoils/">oil, not security</a>. Stop kidding yourself.</li>
</ol>
<p>I&#8217;m not interested in fighting anyone else over oil. I&#8217;d just as soon quit using it. The political aim of introducing a resolution into Congress to encourage aggression against Iran is simply to force a choice between <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/opinion/19thu1.html">offshore drilling</a> or aggressive action against a sovereign nation who has not threatened or attacked us.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t the job of our military or the citizens of this country to ensure that the Bush and Cheney families leave a fat oil inheritance to their families and cronies.  Don&#8217;t be fooled by the absurdity of the proposal of these &#8216;elected officials&#8217;. Dethrone them instead.</p>
<p>And in the meantime, call your Representative and tell them NO WAR WITH IRAN.  In fact, tell them NO MORE WAR FOR OIL.</p>
<p><b>Update</b> The full text of the resolution is <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=hc110-362">here</a>.  In the first paragraph, they mention the IAEA to bolster the claim that there is a threat. In fact, on 6/18/08, the IAEA published <a href="http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Focus/IaeaIran/index.shtml">a communication</a> from Iran in PDF format that indicates Iran&#8217;s willingness to address  the issues around their nuclear program. The IAEA note at the end says it should be evaluated in six months. Of course, six months means Bush couldn&#8217;t shove us into war with them before the end of his presidency.</p>
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		<title>FISA, Fox and Obama</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because behind all the labels and false divisions and categories that define us; beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, united by common challenges and common hopes. And every [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><font face="Times New Roman"><i><big><big>&#8220;</big></big>In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because behind all the labels and false divisions and categories that define us; beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, <b>united by common challenges and common hopes</b>. And every so often, there are moments which call on that fundamental goodness to make this country great again.</i><i><big><big>&#8220;</big></big></i><i> &#8211; Barack Obama, June 3, 2008</i></font></p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed in Barack Obama&#8217;s endorsement of the FISA compromise and I completely disagree with him on it.  When I first read his statement over on <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obama_backing_fisa_compromise.php">TPM</a> I was furious. </p>
<p>Over and over again, I&#8217;ve said that I believe this compromise erodes a core, fundamental value of this country.  Not only because it erodes 4th amendment protections, but also because it will give the telcos the immunity they seek simply by going to court and telling the court that the President told them it was legal to do what they did.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t changed my mind on that.</p>
<p>What Barack Obama says about his decision is:</p>
<ol>
<li>It re-establishes at least a basic foundation of accountability;</li>
<li>It restores FISA and existing criminal statutes as the only way to conduct surveillance;</li>
<li>He doesn&#8217;t approve of the retroactive immunity but &#8220;will work in the Senate to remove [it]; and,</li>
<li>It does not go far enough</li>
</ol>
<p>On points 1,2 and 4 I agree.  Point 3 is purely political; I don&#8217;t believe for a second that the retroactive immunity will be removed, particularly when this is attached to the much larger GI and War Funding bill.  That disappoints me.  It disappoints me that it doesn&#8217;t go far enough. It disappoints me that even one iota of our Constitution was the subject of a compromise, particularly by elected officials who swear to uphold and protect the Constitution.</p>
<p>It disappoints me because frankly, I want the head of George Bush on a platter for his flagrant abuse of the United States Constitution.  (Figuratively, not literally, just in case there are any .gov visitors reading this).  Hell yes, I want to impeach them all and put David Addington and John Yoo in jail for a very long time for what he&#8217;s done. I&#8217;m angry, affronted and offended that these brazen thieves and robbers have hijacked our government for what will surely be their personal gain.</p>
<p>This is why I am not a politician.  I&#8217;m an opinionated citizen who has a voice, a blog and a vote.  I have neither the patience nor the diplomatic skills to expect gray outcomes in a black and white case.   And this is why a snippet of Obama&#8217;s speeches echoed in my mind.  That snippet is at the beginning of this post.</p>
<p>What I lacked was perspective on just how deep the divide is in our country between those who fear and those who hope.  By happenstance, I had a conversation with a couple whose daughter dances with mine and was completely taken by surprise when, with no prompting from me, the husband burst forth with a scathing diatribe about Obama and how much he hated the idea of him becoming President, because those damn liberals were going to allow our country to be attacked again and ruin the economy and appoint three liberal Supreme Court justices all in one four-year term.</p>
<p>This is a nice man.  We have known each other for several years and he is a salt-of-the-earth GOOD person. He&#8217;s not ugly, but his words were. </p>
<p>Then I realized something else about him. He was deeply afraid.  This was a true emotion running through everything he said and believed. Being fearful, he then chose news sources that stoked his fear.  At some point I interrupted his diatribe and said &#8220;You must watch The O&#8217;Reilly Factor for your news. You sound just like him. In fact, you could do a screen test and sit in for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which he replied, &#8220;It&#8217;s the only show I watch. Me, my daughter and my wife sit down and watch it every day.&#8221;</p>
<p>As the conversation went on, I decided to see how he felt about FISA, because some conservative Republicans I know dislike the idea of eroding Constitutional rights as much as some progressives.  His response was flat. &#8220;Wiretaps make us safer.&#8221; This was said in connection with a strong affirmation that torturing the bastards at Guantanamo was the least we should be doing to them.</p>
<p>Fear.  Raw, unadulterated fear, with some O&#8217;Reilly style hate on the side.  The thing is, he&#8217;s in the majority on this, which is why it wouldn&#8217;t have made sense for Obama to oppose it.  </p>
<p>The FISA and torture issues have been framed to prey upon people&#8217;s fears, and it&#8217;s worked fabulously.  Until these issues can be reframed in a way that exposes and resolves those fears, pushing back isn&#8217;t an option if one wants to have a political career that actually succeeds and gets them elected.</p>
<p>It comes down to this: Opposing this &#8216;compromise&#8217; is too nuanced a position to take in a country where people decide who to vote for based upon whether they&#8217;d have a drink with them, or gender, or race, or whatever other superficial excuse is made for their surrender to the dark place where fears grow.</p>
<p>Realizing that, I also understand that my deepest disappointment, anger, and contempt is reserved for the corporate-controlled media, the Rupert Murdochs, Sean Hannitys and Bill O&#8217;Reillys who intentionally dumb down the issues of the day into 10-word sound bites and feeds them to the American public like hors d&#8217;oeurves next to their apple pie.</p>
<p>Yes, I wish that there were a way for Obama to step up and communicate with us in a way that would be persuasive enough for some to reconsider their position. But this is too hot an issue, too close to home for ones who fear to let go. It&#8217;s too big of a step.</p>
<p>Sad, but true. So I&#8217;m disappointed that Obama walked carefully down the center, but I understand why he did it, and <a href="http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2008/06/good-newsbad-news-poll-itics-my-anger.html">just like Gotta Laff over at the Political Carnival</a>, </p>
<blockquote><p>Right now I&#8217;m angry.  I&#8217;ll get over it. </p></blockquote>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t keep holding his feet to the fire. I will. Because the antidote to fear IS hope.  I&#8217;m the perennial optimist, I suppose, but I do believe that progress will be made back to a place where O&#8217;Reilly is irrelevant and people think for themselves, and fear is something they had but got over, just like my anger.</p>
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		<title>FISA: Democrats Capitulate to the GOP &#8211; Where&#8217;s Obama?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silent, that&#8217;s where.  On a day where he announces (wisely) that he will decline public funding, the Democrats in Congress bow backwards to the GOP and say &#8216;put it right here&#8217;.  Not only that, but they &#8216;compromise&#8217; on FISA in such a way that telecoms will receive their immunity according to the bought-and-paid [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Silent, that&#8217;s where.  On a day where he announces (wisely) that he will decline public funding, the Democrats in Congress bow backwards to the GOP and say &#8216;put it right here&#8217;.  Not only that, but they &#8216;compromise&#8217; on FISA in such a way that telecoms will receive their immunity according to the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/washington/20fisacnd.html">bought-and-paid for agreement</a>.<br />
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<p>The agreement would settle one of the thorniest issues in dispute by providing immunity to the phone companies in the Sept. 11 program as long as a federal district court determines that they received legitimate requests from the government directing their participation in the warrantless wiretapping operation.</p>
<p>With some <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/at_and_t/index.html?inline=nyt-org" title="More information about AT&amp;T Corp">AT&amp;T</a> and other telecommunications companies now facing some 40 lawsuits over their reported participation in the wiretapping program, Republican leaders described this narrow court review on the immunity question as a mere “formality.” </p>
<p>“The lawsuits will be dismissed,” Representative Roy Blunt of Missouri, the No. 2 Republican in the House, predicted with confidence. </p>
<p>The proposal — particularly the immunity provision — represents a major victory for the White House after months of dispute. “I think the White House got a better deal than they even they had hoped to get,” said Senator Christopher Bond, the Missouri Republican who led the negotiations. </p>
<p>The White House immediately endorsed the proposal, which is likely to be voted on in the House on Friday and in the Senate next week. </p>
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<p>They&#8217;re going to let impeachment die, they bow low and scrape before Lord Bush while selling us down the river for the price of a few lawsuits and the 4th amendment.</p>
<p>And Obama says&#8230;nothing?  Time for some leadership.  Especially if you want those grassroots contributors to keep contributing.</p>
<p>Is this a case of moving to the center? Triangulation? What happened to CHANGE?</p>
<p>I am perfectly willing to retract everything I&#8217;ve just written if someone &#8212; anyone &#8212; can offer me a reasonable explanation for this. I see several other alternatives including renewing the Protect America Act, not allowing telecom immunity, or tightening the provisions for requesting warrants, since it&#8217;s been PROVEN over and over again that there is a complete abuse of discretion in how these are requested.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, let&#8217;s have some transparency. Tell us why you feel compelled to subvert the US Constitution.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting.</p>
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		<title>Through the eyes of unregistered voices</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note: this is guest-blogged by my 13-year old daughter, who came home today in a huff after tussling with friends and peers at school over such diverse subjects as the Iraq war, warrantless wiretapping, Election 2008, and illegal immigration all in the span of a 90-minute PE class.  I asked her to blog it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p><small><i>Note: this is guest-blogged by my 13-year old daughter, who came home today in a huff after tussling with friends and peers at school over such diverse subjects as the Iraq war, warrantless wiretapping, Election 2008, and illegal immigration all in the span of a 90-minute PE class.  I asked her to blog it because I was taken aback by her passion and by the depth of her own thought and knowledge on the topic.  Hers is a self-described small voice that &#8220;doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221; (her words, not mine), but her post represents the voices of the next wave of voters, and how our decisions today have such a deep impact on their lives, tomorrow. I know she&#8217;d love comments, please feel free to leave some. <img src='http://politics.drumsnwhistles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </i></small></p>
<h3>Beware!</h3>
<p>&#8230;small girl speaking–giving opinions–on big subjects.</p>
<p>Though my voice does not matter, and won&#8217;t be wanted until I’m eighteen, I can nevertheless help but speak it.</p>
<p>The presidential election of 2008 is, in fact a) a historical one; b) an exciting one; and, c) an important one. It&#8217;s a crucial time in our history, what with the war and the economy, etc… and the kids, children, teens, or whatever you want to call us can’t help but notice. We have the influence of the news and reporters telling us this and that; we have our parents&#8217; influence whether it be Democratic or Republican, all the while learning about the Constitution and our government in history class. In short, we develop opinions, and with opinions come disagreements.</p>
<p>Unlike the majority of my peers I don’t have the luxury of believing what my parents believe in terms of politics. My daddy is a Republican, born and bred; my mom is a Democrat. My dad’s side of the family (Republican) lives closest to us, and I get more exposure to them than my mother&#8217;s side of the family (Democratic). My mom&#8217;s side of the family, however, is more involved and opinionated about politics. Basically I pretty much see both sides of the issues. I also see one or more small disputes that come up because of this. In addition to that, I’m also a blogger and the daughter of a blogger and seem to pick up reports and  information more than my friends on these issues. This helps when you&#8217;re in an advanced history class, learning government, and are constantly bombarded with projects in which you must take various issues, research, and reflect on them. I will say we are pretty lucky to be learning this during an election. It makes it easier to understand, but unfortunately as I said before, adds to more opinions and more disputes.</p>
<p>Lately, these discussions have been more frequent in school. They started in our yearbook class when our teacher wasn’t there to tell us not to. There are usually about six of us who are the most involved. Two of us, me and another, are very independent thinkers, and very open to opinions which, luckily, agree with each other. The rest are fairly spread out.</p>
<p>It usually starts out, “I want a women president, that would be sooo cool.” I personally hate these comments, why should someone be nominated or elected based on their gender or race? Shouldn’t it be on their ideas, how they would lead us? I voice my opinions and the response is, “Whatever, I still want a women president!” Whatever.</p>
<p>Another person, “My dad is registered as a Democrat so he can vote for Hillary and she can lose to McCain.” I personally think that’s not a trait I would want to share with others, why play like that? Not cool, dude. The other independent, “Obama ‘08! We need change after Bush, not more war and fighting, or more lies like Hillary.” Another person, “Ew, Bush sucks, all my family supports him but me, and they get mad at me for it. I don’t get it, we’re fighting a war that’s not ours to fight.” Me: ”I agree, but why should they be mad at you for your own opinions and differences?” Anyway it usually carries on like this till the end of the period, usually just discussion on the latest primary or caucus, not fighting. The real disagreements came today in PE.</p>
<p>After awhile of the debates and speeches, I decided I was with my mother on Obama, and here&#8217;s the great part: My dad, the homegrown Republican, voted Obama too, Woo! So we usually have 10 minutes or so before class starts since it&#8217;s 1st period PE, and I usually talk with my friends, and some others, usually the other people in my Honors classes.</p>
<p>The day after Super Tuesday I was talking with them and I asked what the end result of the democratic primary in California was. “I think Hilary won by about 15%,” someone says. “That sucks,” I say. “Why? You WANT Obama to win??” by someone else. Now that&#8217;s not cool, don’t you dare get mad at me for my opinions. “Yes I do.” “Seriously? WHY?” (…did you seriously just say that? sigh…) ”Because he is who I prefer, I would personally not like to send in more troops, and I agree with most of his ideas. Jeez, you don’t have to get indignant over a difference of opinions, not cool.” “Whatever.” Haha I love this, “Bananas not War.” I say, and just as the whistle blows to get in our spots she says, “What!?” Haha, live, laugh, love.</p>
<p>So then, next PE the subject of politics comes up again, someone says,”Mitt Romney dropped out last night, that&#8217;s too bad I wanted him to be president.” Really? I didn’t know that, Cool. “Well McCain’s going to win anyway so he shouldn’t waste his money.” Another says we are all idiots. If that person wasn’t my friend I would be getting mad again at the intolerance they have toward other&#8217;s opinions.</p>
<p>“Hillary better be the Democratic candidate, she’ll be easier to beat.” That&#8217;s true, it was projected that if it was Hillary and McCain, McCain would win, but with McCain and Obama, Obama was projected to win. Of course that isn’t exactly the election, anything could happen.</p>
<p>“It bugs me how, although Hillary is the one running for president, lately you see more Bill than Hillary. We’re voting for Hillary, not Bill and Hillary. But I suppose you get them as a package, that&#8217;s one of the things I don’t like, some of the remarks he made were uncalled for.” Such as after S. Carolina. haha, NOT.</p>
<p>“I don’t really care.” Another says. The other person again, “I don’t care–McCain’s going to win.” “Do you really want that huge war hawk as president?” I say, I’m starting to lose my temper, although I shouldn’t. Come on, it&#8217;s early, I’m sleepy and I’m about to run a mile. I’m still civil though. “What?” she askes. “Dude, he’s like all for the war in Iraq, it&#8217;s time to bring our troops home, stop spreading  our chaos and messing everything up even more.”</p>
<p>“Oh. My. Gosh, we can’t leave Iraq! Are you kidding? As soon as we leave they are like, going to bomb us!”</p>
<p>“Are you serious? They aren’t going to bomb us. And they don’t have weapons of mass destruction either.”</p>
<p>“Do you read at all? Hellllo, 9/11! If we leave they will Iraq will bomb us again!” hmm, I wonder if I say 9/11 they will jump, because they seem reaaally paranoid.</p>
<p>“Ok, first of all, do not say ‘Iraq will bomb us’. 9/11 was terrorists, NOT Iraq. By saying that you are condemning everybody in Iraq, all the innocent people whose homes WE have invaded, for NO reason! Second off, IRAQ and IRAN do NOT have nuclear bombs! It’s proven, do you know Iraq said they did to keep from being attacked?”</p>
<p>“As soon as we leave they will get Nuclear Bombs and bomb us.” grr…</p>
<p>“From where? They have no Money! We’ve already destroyed so much of their land, with no help to clean it up, How on earth would that happen!”</p>
<p>“Thats not true!”</p>
<p>“Really? Prove it to me.”</p>
<p>“Thats not the point.” Ha, no you&#8217;re avoiding the point. “The point is we are in a war that we need to win, then we can bring all the troops in that you like.”</p>
<p>“Dude, so many people are there right now, fighting for us! You want to send in more innocent people to go and mess up the other innocent people&#8217;s homes? You dont find any of that wrong?”</p>
<p>“If they don’t want to fight for us they don&#8217;t have to, heck I’ll go. It gives me an excuse to shoot people.”</p>
<p>“What if you get shot?” another person asks.</p>
<p>“I don’t care, I just won’t get shot, and even so I’ll just come home with one leg.”</p>
<p>Dear God, someone shoot me now so I can stop listening to this. “Are you kidding me!” It occurs to me that the people I’m standing next to all have no older brothers. “You don’t get it, you don’t get how serious this is, dude people are dying, DYING, over there and you&#8217;re joking about it–”</p>
<p>“I’m not joking.”</p>
<p>“–either that or you haven’t watched an older brother join the army–”</p>
<p>“If he didn’t want to go, don’t enlist.”</p>
<p>“Stop cutting me off! He didn’t have a choice. He needed to pay for college. I was little at the time, and didn’t always understand, but the first night he left I had nightmares that he would be out there fighting, in danger! Killed! Fighting for people like you, who could care less for one life. And as you said if people didn’t enlist they would start up the draft again, the draft that my OTHER BROTHER was MADE to sign! You don’t get that, you’ve never seen that, never had that small chance of something that important taken away from you. Also on the subject of 9/11, did you know Bush was tapping our phone lines before it happened?”</p>
<p>“Really?” one person pipes up.</p>
<p>“He did that so he could catch the people planning to do it!”</p>
<p>“So he knew it was going to happen then?” I ask.</p>
<p>“No but, just in case.”</p>
<p>“Well, I can see how well that worked out, so why are they still doing it? And why in such an unproductive manner? What if we accidently say something that&#8217;s like, I dont know. a code for something else? Then that person is automatically being watched, innocent because they accidently said something.”</p>
<p>“Well if they are innocent then they don’t have anything to hide.”</p>
<p>“Seriously? Have you heard of the INNOCENT people detained right NOW? Being deprived of their right of habeas corpus? Thats AGAINST the Constitution, the thing the president SWEARS to uphold and protect. Just because they aren’t citizens–”</p>
<p>” Well if they aren’t citizens they can get their butts out off our country!”</p>
<p>“Oh my gosh!” That wasn’t me, that was the girl from Vietnam  standing right next to me. She is not a citizen. I lost my temper completely now.</p>
<p>How could anybody so arrogant to say something as that? How much of an arrogant fool do you have to be to shoot off your mouth like that and say that to a friend!</p>
<p>“Oh!” another person pulls the girl from Vietnam away from the group as I go stomping away, the arrogant person cries halfhearted apologies and the whistle blows. I’m still quite mad by the time PE is over and can’t help but remark on my way to the dressing rooms, “You know not everyone has the abilities  and resources to become a citizen right away, including money, and time.” I’m not sure if she replied. I didn’t care enough to listen.</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure that&#8217;s it. I probably shouldn’t have gotten mad, and could have handled it better, but what can I say? These kinds of disputes really suck, they completely ruin your day. How could we, only 13, have such big mouths? haha jk, but we really do. It&#8217;s annoying sometimes…</p>
<p>&#8211;If you choose to comment on my post please keep a civil tongue and I will keep one as well. We all have differences of opinion which you are welcome to say as long as it is conducted appropriately. thankyou.—-</p>
<p>Can we?</p>
<p>“Yes we can!”</p>
<p>peace, love, dance.</p>
<p><em>I hope you all enjoyed the opinions of the world through the eyes of the voices that do not yet register as important <img src='http://politics.drumsnwhistles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>cross-posted on my <a href="http://www.irishdancr.com">own blog</a>, too</em></p>
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		<title>Senator Dodd vs. Telcos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
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The Military Commissions Act.  Warrantless wiretapping.  Shredding of Habeas Corpus.  Torture. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- sphereit start --><p>Hats off to <a href="http://chrisdodd.com/blog">Senator Chris Dodd</a> for doing what his constituents have called upon him to do by <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-anderson/chris-dodd-stands-up-agai_b_69197.html">vowing to block the FISA bill</a> as long as it grants immunity to the telephone companies for their complicity in illegal wiretaps.  </p>
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<blockquote><p>The Military Commissions Act.  Warrantless wiretapping.  Shredding of Habeas Corpus.  Torture.  Extraordinary Rendition.  Secret Prisons. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>No more.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I have decided to place a &#8220;hold&#8221; on the latest FISA bill that would have included amnesty for telecommunications companies that enabled the President&#8217;s assault on the Constitution by illegally providing personal information on their customers without judicial authorization. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I said that I would do everything I could to stop this bill from passing, and I have.  </p></blockquote>
<p>Now, where are the rest of the Democrats?  We&#8217;ve heard from Sen. Specter and Sen. Dodd.  Where do the rest of them stand?  If they cave on this, then it&#8217;s time to raise up a strong third party and put an independent in office.</p>
<p>If you agree with Dodd&#8217;s vow to place a hold on the FISA legislation, please visit his site and <a href="http://action.chrisdodd.com/tellafriend.jsp?tell_a_friend_KEY=813">sign the petition</a> supporting him.</p>
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