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	<title>Comments on: Where I tell Tim Rutten to get a 401k education</title>
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		<title>By: Allgates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allgates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s a significant hit for me, but it’s all on paper. I have continued to contribute and actually increased my savings rate right now..&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.high-school-online.com&quot; rel=&quot;follow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;home school&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a significant hit for me, but it’s all on paper. I have continued to contribute and actually increased my savings rate right now..<br /><a href="http://www.high-school-online.com" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">home school</a></p>
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		<title>By: sharoncfejes</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharoncfejes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, if Rutten had his way, we’d all liquidate and make those losses real in the name of a ‘failed experiment’. It’s laughable to hear him quote Robyn Credico’s sudden epiphany on the failure of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fidelity401k.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fidelity 401k&lt;/a&gt; plans,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, if Rutten had his way, we’d all liquidate and make those losses real in the name of a ‘failed experiment’. It’s laughable to hear him quote Robyn Credico’s sudden epiphany on the failure of <a href="http://www.fidelity401k.net" rel="nofollow">fidelity 401k</a> plans,</p>
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		<title>By: BarelyBlogging &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2009-01-11</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarelyBlogging &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2009-01-11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Where I tell Tim Rutten to get a 401k education : Bang the Drum Karoli writes a fantastic blog post about 401ks. (tags: finance investing retirement 401k) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Where I tell Tim Rutten to get a 401k education : Bang the Drum Karoli writes a fantastic blog post about 401ks. (tags: finance investing retirement 401k) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ike Pigott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike Pigott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely - except for the part where you call for more regulation.  If you know of specific needs, then fine.  But regulation for regulation&#039;s sake stifles far more business and chokes more growth than it prevents in fraud.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pros versus cons, 401-K is still a splendid thing for the individual investor, who is typically so diversified that he/she is fraud and market-proof.  My point still stands, though, that the ratio of over-the-shoulder interest and thumbing-through-earnings-reports to dollars-in-accounts is much lower than it used to be.  When it cost you 100-bucks to make a trade, you did it with lots of foresight and homework.  Now with 8-bucks a trade, DRIPs, and lower dollar ceilings most investors aren&#039;t on the hook for enough to ask tough questions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In effect, those with bigger stakes and more time to study or wage proxy battles benefit from greater influence dollar-for-dollar.  Those are the people to watch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Truly, the only people who can &quot;fail&quot; with a diversified 401-K are those who were close to retirement and didn&#039;t throttle down to more conservative investment mixes.  People like me, under-40, should be HAPPY that our dollar-cost averaging is now buying more shares and will eventually rebound with a vengeance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely &#8211; except for the part where you call for more regulation.  If you know of specific needs, then fine.  But regulation for regulation&#39;s sake stifles far more business and chokes more growth than it prevents in fraud.</p>
<p>Pros versus cons, 401-K is still a splendid thing for the individual investor, who is typically so diversified that he/she is fraud and market-proof.  My point still stands, though, that the ratio of over-the-shoulder interest and thumbing-through-earnings-reports to dollars-in-accounts is much lower than it used to be.  When it cost you 100-bucks to make a trade, you did it with lots of foresight and homework.  Now with 8-bucks a trade, DRIPs, and lower dollar ceilings most investors aren&#39;t on the hook for enough to ask tough questions.</p>
<p>In effect, those with bigger stakes and more time to study or wage proxy battles benefit from greater influence dollar-for-dollar.  Those are the people to watch.</p>
<p>Truly, the only people who can &#8220;fail&#8221; with a diversified 401-K are those who were close to retirement and didn&#39;t throttle down to more conservative investment mixes.  People like me, under-40, should be HAPPY that our dollar-cost averaging is now buying more shares and will eventually rebound with a vengeance.</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ike,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your comment. While I agree that oversight is the answer, the fact is that while the SEC has been chasing after Steve Jobs for daring to backdate stock options, they&#039;ve been asleep at the wheel when it comes to protecting investors as a whole, whether large or small, institutional or otherwise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The safest 401k strategy was always to spread the risk across mutual funds, even funds in the same sector on the belief that collective wisdom of the different managers would manage the risk. Unfortunately the deregulation issues came into play with the mortgage/derivative mess, which unraveled the other markets as credit tightened.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, the strategy is to simply wait and begin to consider what we want the future to be. 401k investors have a tremendous amount of collective investing power, and can use it for good in a transparent, well-lit marketplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ike,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. While I agree that oversight is the answer, the fact is that while the SEC has been chasing after Steve Jobs for daring to backdate stock options, they&#39;ve been asleep at the wheel when it comes to protecting investors as a whole, whether large or small, institutional or otherwise.</p>
<p>The safest 401k strategy was always to spread the risk across mutual funds, even funds in the same sector on the belief that collective wisdom of the different managers would manage the risk. Unfortunately the deregulation issues came into play with the mortgage/derivative mess, which unraveled the other markets as credit tightened.  </p>
<p>Still, the strategy is to simply wait and begin to consider what we want the future to be. 401k investors have a tremendous amount of collective investing power, and can use it for good in a transparent, well-lit marketplace.</p>
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		<title>By: Ike Pigott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ike Pigott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never went as far as to call it a Failure, but I think Rutten is stealing some of my material.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*I* have been on the record praising 401-Ks, but recognizing the Unintended Consequence.  Namely, that most investors are now at play in a market with such a small personal stake in any individual company that there&#039;s virtually no personal oversight in the governance.  With $100K split among some 300 companies, it&#039;s not worth my while to track every single one, nor travel to a stockholders meeting, nor be the pesky sort I would be if I had a bigger stake.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do believe that many of the ethics issues we&#039;re having have far more to do with an oversight/funding ratio that is out of whack, and far less to do with deregulation or any particular administration in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never went as far as to call it a Failure, but I think Rutten is stealing some of my material.</p>
<p>*I* have been on the record praising 401-Ks, but recognizing the Unintended Consequence.  Namely, that most investors are now at play in a market with such a small personal stake in any individual company that there&#39;s virtually no personal oversight in the governance.  With $100K split among some 300 companies, it&#39;s not worth my while to track every single one, nor travel to a stockholders meeting, nor be the pesky sort I would be if I had a bigger stake.</p>
<p>I do believe that many of the ethics issues we&#39;re having have far more to do with an oversight/funding ratio that is out of whack, and far less to do with deregulation or any particular administration in power.</p>
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