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		<title>By: patricksbiggs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using derived asteroid accretion rates from observations of dusty white dwarfs, Debes is currently working out whether his model can explain the mechanism behind dusty white dwarfs, and the possible mechanism that will make our Sun a future dusty white dwarf. Naturally, this is very exciting, as if Jupiter’s i &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chasereviews.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.chase.com&lt;/a&gt; nfluence on the Solar System’s asteroids is enough to explain the observed accretion rates, could it mean that we are observing white dwarfs with massive Jupiter-like gas giants shepherding asteroids closer to the host white dwarf? Also, does this mean that we could be observing white dwarfs that give us a glimpse of what our Solar System may look like in a few billion years? Possibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using derived asteroid accretion rates from observations of dusty white dwarfs, Debes is currently working out whether his model can explain the mechanism behind dusty white dwarfs, and the possible mechanism that will make our Sun a future dusty white dwarf. Naturally, this is very exciting, as if Jupiter’s i <a href="http://www.chasereviews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chase.com</a> nfluence on the Solar System’s asteroids is enough to explain the observed accretion rates, could it mean that we are observing white dwarfs with massive Jupiter-like gas giants shepherding asteroids closer to the host white dwarf? Also, does this mean that we could be observing white dwarfs that give us a glimpse of what our Solar System may look like in a few billion years? Possibly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sicko: Can Socialism Fold into a Capitalist Society? &#124; Bang the Drum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sicko: Can Socialism Fold into a Capitalist Society? &#124; Bang the Drum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of suppliers and managers and executives at the expense of patients and doctors. I argued in an earlier post that the reason the Pharmacy Benefit Managers remain for-profit corporations is to line the pockets [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karoli,

The problem with PBMs is just the tip of the iceberg regarding too much industry influence in medicine.

I sent the following response to Dr. Wolfbers&#039; article &quot;Hippocritical&#039; Doctors&quot; that ran in the Boston Globe 3/25/07.  Don&#039;t know if they will run it or not.  But the word needs to get out.

To the Editor,
 
The March 25, 2007 edition of Boston Globe&#039;s Magazine ran an article authored by Dr. Adam Wolfberg, a Boston obstetrician. The article entitled &quot;Hippocritcal&#039; Doctors&quot;, (www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2007/03/25/hippocritical_doctors/)  should set off alarm bells in the ears of legislators who promote the concept of Evidence Based Medicine (EMB), as a solution to the nation&#039;s health care crisis.  EBM establishes guidelines that physicians must follow when treating the injured. It determines what treatments will and will not be reimbursed by health insurers.  It also determines what form and amount of workers compensation injured workers will receive. In some states such as California, medical practices determined under EBM  are written into law for the treatment of injured workers. (www.acoem.org/news.aspx?id=2502)
 
There is no doubt our health care system is in dire need of change. However, there is a troubling problem - namely, Who is in charge of determining what is evidence? Many US medical professionals who are currently in positions of deciding what is and is not &quot;evidence&quot;, have long histories of ties with insurers, other stakeholder industries and Big Tobacco. They and the medical associations that they govern also have much influence into government medical policies established through the CDC, NIOSH, HHS, NIH, NIEHS and the EPA.   
 
It is a grave concern among many, that patients such as Dr. Wolfberg&#039;s 5 year old daughter, are not able to obtain proper treatment because we have given too much power to those with financial interests in determining what is viable medical treatment. It is a concern that we have given the Proverbial Foxes the Keys to the Evidence Based Medicine Hen House.
 
For more on the subject of conflicts of interest involving those who are controlling national medical protocol, read the following links:
 
Dateline NBC, &quot;The Paper Chase&quot; June 23, 2000
disabilitylaw.ca/Dateline%20State%20Farm.pdf
 
Wall Street Journal, Jan 9, 2007 &quot;Amid Suits over Mold, Experts Wear Two Hats&quot;
http://blawg.midwestconstructionlaw.com/2007/01/new_mold_case.html
 
Letter to the White House, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Oct 28, 2003
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/inforeg/2003iq/66.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karoli,</p>
<p>The problem with PBMs is just the tip of the iceberg regarding too much industry influence in medicine.</p>
<p>I sent the following response to Dr. Wolfbers&#8217; article &#8220;Hippocritical&#8217; Doctors&#8221; that ran in the Boston Globe 3/25/07.  Don&#8217;t know if they will run it or not.  But the word needs to get out.</p>
<p>To the Editor,</p>
<p>The March 25, 2007 edition of Boston Globe&#8217;s Magazine ran an article authored by Dr. Adam Wolfberg, a Boston obstetrician. The article entitled &#8220;Hippocritcal&#8217; Doctors&#8221;, (www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2007/03/25/hippocritical_doctors/)  should set off alarm bells in the ears of legislators who promote the concept of Evidence Based Medicine (EMB), as a solution to the nation&#8217;s health care crisis.  EBM establishes guidelines that physicians must follow when treating the injured. It determines what treatments will and will not be reimbursed by health insurers.  It also determines what form and amount of workers compensation injured workers will receive. In some states such as California, medical practices determined under EBM  are written into law for the treatment of injured workers. (www.acoem.org/news.aspx?id=2502)</p>
<p>There is no doubt our health care system is in dire need of change. However, there is a troubling problem &#8211; namely, Who is in charge of determining what is evidence? Many US medical professionals who are currently in positions of deciding what is and is not &#8220;evidence&#8221;, have long histories of ties with insurers, other stakeholder industries and Big Tobacco. They and the medical associations that they govern also have much influence into government medical policies established through the CDC, NIOSH, HHS, NIH, NIEHS and the EPA.   </p>
<p>It is a grave concern among many, that patients such as Dr. Wolfberg&#8217;s 5 year old daughter, are not able to obtain proper treatment because we have given too much power to those with financial interests in determining what is viable medical treatment. It is a concern that we have given the Proverbial Foxes the Keys to the Evidence Based Medicine Hen House.</p>
<p>For more on the subject of conflicts of interest involving those who are controlling national medical protocol, read the following links:</p>
<p>Dateline NBC, &#8220;The Paper Chase&#8221; June 23, 2000<br />
disabilitylaw.ca/Dateline%20State%20Farm.pdf</p>
<p>Wall Street Journal, Jan 9, 2007 &#8220;Amid Suits over Mold, Experts Wear Two Hats&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://blawg.midwestconstructionlaw.com/2007/01/new_mold_case.html" rel="nofollow">http://blawg.midwestconstructionlaw.com/2007/01/new_mold_case.html</a></p>
<p>Letter to the White House, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Oct 28, 2003<br />
<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/inforeg/2003iq/66.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/inforeg/2003iq/66.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pam,

Gladly -- consider it done.  And hopefully you&#039;ll link back to me, too?  I have much more to say about these PBMs and plan to use some of your content in those posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pam,</p>
<p>Gladly &#8212; consider it done.  And hopefully you&#8217;ll link back to me, too?  I have much more to say about these PBMs and plan to use some of your content in those posts.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have an excellent grasp of the PBM issue. A group of independent pharmacists created www.medicineandmoney.com to try to tell people/voters about PBMs and what they can do about them. Please check out our site and if you deem it appropriate, we would be honore if you linked to the site. Thank you for your consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have an excellent grasp of the PBM issue. A group of independent pharmacists created <a href="http://www.medicineandmoney.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.medicineandmoney.com</a> to try to tell people/voters about PBMs and what they can do about them. Please check out our site and if you deem it appropriate, we would be honore if you linked to the site. Thank you for your consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Caremark Update - odd time signatures - Blogging life, business, and the internet in 19/7 time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caremark Update - odd time signatures - Blogging life, business, and the internet in 19/7 time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Link: Why I think PBMs should be off the table in any debate about healthcare [...]</description>
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